Saturday, October 18, 2008

New Ban List of internet Trolls and Spammers

Here is the latest BanListing names. They are reported to us as internet Trolls or Spammers. We urge all Participating Groups (see list of Yahoo groups in the sidebar) to ban them at once. Special thanks to Tony who recorded Rab Harmon's name which Bob spoke of recently but could not tell me, what is the email name for That Evil One? He had already been banned but, we wished to give him the special recognition he seems to enjoy. Rab is "dasherbert." Him and The Shah would be in runoff contest for most rude, predudiced, evil one of all, if you believe the reports we have got here. I do not know which one may win that contest they each have a very good case to make why they are WORST TROLL. To make it easier for you to "cut and paste" I put the list all together below, but the names in BOLD are the "WORST TROLLS" and the names below are your standard issue of internet Troll and Spammer.

Ban Listing 10/18/08
Madam's Special ban list, WORST TROLLS (larger, bold type)

blown440@yahoo.com

Gitika.77@gmail.com

Gitika

yogsokabu

RabHarmon
dasherbert01@yahoo.com

dasherbert01

shu131421@yahoo.com

orlando_spirit@yahoo.com

heidoger@yahoo.de

wkarric1@yahoo.com

ecsmith01@yahoo.com

libertinelolita

imuharif@yahoo.com

icrashharleys@yahoo.com

knifewing_54@yahoo.com

A racist is a Troll and gets Banned, appeal denied

Ugly Racism is Troll Behavior and earns a BanListing. The appeal is denied.

This blog concerns our first "appeal" to reverse (that is, to "unban") somebody who asked us (I think, very politely!!) to. And, his message sure had me convinced (see previous post). However, for this BanListing to work we have to consider the views of the full executive committee (the founders). Any one of us can put someone on the BAN list. Any one of us, CAN REVERSE that. And, any TWO of us are the "final court of appeals" in the even of any disagreement (friends can disagree and stay friends right?).

Well, I did read what Tony (and Ching) wrote in previous blog. Now here is the writing of Bob, which means it is two Executive Committee votes to KEEP the Ban, not change to reverse it. Here's Bob:

Dearest Madame,
Earl did write and apologize for his racist remarks and blamed it all on "demon rum". I have studied the effects of alcohol and I can professionally say that even one beer or 1 glass of wine starts to tear down our inhabitions and we do and say things that we would normally not say or do. That is not to say that we would no longer think them, we just would not say them! His alcohol consumption merely tore the mask off of his blatent racism and his hate of Asians....he did not catagorize them as Japanese, Chinese, Philippinos, Koreans, etc... he lumped them all together. After sobering up he did not bother to clarify which Asian race he diliked, though he did say that it was his experiences in Viet Nam and Korea that fueled his racism. Bottom line: He is a racist. Whether covert or overt, racism is just plan ugly!! Leave him banned.
Kano (Kalbo) Bob

Well, that sounds convincing to me and, either way it is now 2 to 1 in favor of keeping the ban. I do appreciate the time that was spent on this topic. It appears that "the shah" spent about 2 split seconds to brand Tony and Ching as criminals (as Tony explained, the accuser was speaking of a felony crime in USA), and that is at the very least, reckless and careless and even DEFAMATION. It is the behavior of a TROLL.

And, it appears very clear to me, that if somebody BANS one of our people then the least we can do for them is to BAN THEM TOO, and why not, BAN anyone who is a moderator at their group too - birds of a feather fly together and get BANNED together.

Sorry. The ban remains.

Reminder to group owners. We do NOT WISH TO BAN people just because we do not like them. We do NOT ACCEPT your ban list because, like this guy "the shah" you may be a racist or a "trigger happy guy" who just bans people for fun. We do NOT WISH to get into personality disputes or go along with group owners who ban for fun.

If you are a yahoo or google group owner who is wishing to FIGHT BACK against the internet Trolls and Spammers here is a useful tool for you to use - copy our BAN LISTING onto a word for windows document you save, and then BAN them up to 200 at a time per day, until you get them all. BAN every last one of them, trolls and spammers. Fight back.

It is so true what the English Lord, Sir Edmund Burke, said to His King in defense of the American revolution - not a traitor but someone the WORLD should admire: "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil internet Trolls and Spammers, is for the good group owners to do nothing. Fight back. Ban them. Participate and report them to http://BanListing.blogspot.com.

Put on your group homepage or in a "welcome message" our warning (see sidebar) to all trolls and spammers GO AWAY.

Dirty is not the pix of sexy girls, it is the places on the internet where wicked, evil trolls and spammers run free to bother the rest of us. Isn't it about time, we fight back?

One last thing. I am still being a Catholic, a strong believer in Redemption. If somebody has been a drunk in the past they can be redeemed. A racist in the past, they can change. A troll, they can reverse their course. But, we must remember our Teachings. God does forgive but, you will find if you look, He does not Forget, promises this nowhere. That is why Catholics do believe in a Purgatory, which Purges the last remnants of sin. It is why we believe there exist Human Suffering - those who suffer more on this earth will need purging of the remnant of sin, much less, in the afterlife but have sooner arrival in His Presence. There is no sin that He does not forgive, Nothing that He does not know of, No action you can take, He will not forgive. But of course, He is perfect and can forgive, even though His son died so painfully to give us the Open Door of a choice of saying Sorry, of having Forgiveness, and to gain REDEMPTION. But we must remember, we are all human, not God. It is not as easy for us to Forgive as it is for Him, who sent His Son and watched that only Son, die so painfully, but forgives. We forgive with more difficulty but, it can be done. He who seeks such, must act differently and convincingly, and over time. And must remember it is not just us mere mortal humans who cannot forget - it is God too, who does not. So we can forgive but, we cannot forget, and it is only right and just, that to earn redemption must remember it is EARNED it is not just granted. So if someone has "earned" their way onto this BanListing by a wrongful action, you can change. Of course you can start a new yahoo profile and act different and NO MORE TROLL in the future. Either way is the path to redemption, and I pray for evil ones to walk away from that path, In His Name I ask for your success on that journey and hope you choose it. Amen.

Sincerely,

The Madam (Lorie)
co-founder with Tony and Bob of http://BanListing.blogspot.com
also see, http://SlimGurls.blogspot.com

Thursday, October 16, 2008

News: Grouply, New Bans, Our first appeal to reverse Ban

There is a nasty spam machine called "Grouply" that manages to snare a bunch of our members. The lure is that they will get access to lots of other yahoo groups very easily. The trick is that once you have signed up to Grouply and you have given them your email name/address AND YOUR PASSWORD, they are then able to send out SPAM RECRUTIING MESSAGES using YOUR name. So, then YOU are the one who gets banned.

Here is two recent examples of names that I added to the BanListing, both are attempts to post a message to the entire group:

First, heidoger@yahoo.de wrote,

"Hi, You can see a list of my groups on Grouply at the link below. Maybe you'll find some you want to join. gerard. Here's the link: (the grouply reply URL is then provided to "click")."

The problem with this of course, is that my yahoo group is flooded with these sort of messages, EXCEPT for this BanListing where we share names to ban. Most of the other group owners I spoke with agree that this is a great candidate for a BAN, every time. Even though this individual might claim (I believe him!) that he had no idea his name would be used for spamming, the truth is that every group he is a member of will get such a spam recruiting message, and everyone he recruits to this spam-machine will then become the unwitting victim of this spam machine too. The only way we can think to stop the cycle is to just automatically BAN anyone who sends such SPAM, in keeping with our group's NO SPAM POLICY.

They can't SPAM if they got the BAN.

My second example of "how to earn a BanListing" today is this:

"how do i get this shit off of my computer,i let a fring uses my computer and know when i check mine mail all i get is this garabge"

Once again, instead of this guy simply removing himself from my group he speaks of "this shit" and "this garbage" as if I dumped some awful stuff on him, a poor helpless guy just minding his own business. Who knows how many other groups "his fring" also signed him up for? Who knows what complaints might be filed with Yahoo against us in the future? No matter what other group he has been signed up for, he denies it all. So, best to ban him from all yahoo groups that we can reach. Here is the message I sent to him with the "reject" of his message:

"Sorry i cannot approve this message to post. It is not at all in keeping with the group rules, sorry. further, yahoo groups is self service. You joined, and you can also remove yourself or change setting to NO MAIL. You failed to do either.

"Because of your breaking our group rules, and also your TROLL-like behavior (very rude message), and because it is clear you don't keep control of your mouth or your computer and you may have joined other groups and then will threaten them like you did to me, I have reported you to http://BanListing.blogspot.com. You will find your name posted there shortly.

"Please play nicely at yahoo groups in the future.

"The Madam (Lorie)
SlimGurls group owner"

In both of these cases, if I knew the story from ANOTHER group owner, I would be VERY grateful to have that information so that I could RUSH forward to ban the guy.

This is NOT the same thing as a guy who might be OFFENDED because the girls in the pix that Bob sent, did not have large enough breasts so they ask politely for LARGER TITS PLEASE BOB or reverse. But the BanListing is for someone who might THREATEN the group, the nice people who post pix, or the group owner, for whatever reason they have. They should just go away and leave us alone, not be a TROLL. So today, I bring you the news of two TROLLS as part of The Madams Continuing Education Series. And your comments would of course be most welcome.

Anything that is a threat to your group, deserves a BAN. Any message or person who threatens or attempts to DRIVE AWAY those who joined your group deserves to be banned. Anyone acting like a TROLL deserves a one way ticket OUT of your group and OUT of all groups. Both these candidates earned their place at BanListing. I thank Tony again for the idea of sharing BAN lists with group owners. We need to be very careful with this, we are not being spiteful or just emotional in this, as the Italian Americans would say, "it is not personal, it is business," LOL!!!

As always, if there is any disagreement you may write an email posting to this or any blog asking for a reversal of the decision, and any one of our Executive Board members may reverse that decision (and THAT decision can be reversed back to the BAN only by 2/3 vote of the Executive Board).

Here now, comes one who posted a VERY polite "appeal" message at my SlimGurls group (which I did not approve because it would be thought of as "spam-like" by members who signed up not for a discussion of spam/not spam, but for pix of SlimGurls). Personally, I subscribe to idea that "spam" is with commercial links to make money versus just sending "off topic" to that group. But I know some would not agree with me. THIS FORUM is not for the "all purpose ban" but ONLY for the narrow, COMMERCIAL spammers who are the "professionals" who make us miserable using the internet. Now, listen to this one please.

Especially this is to the attention of the Executive Board, your first "business." Unless I have other information, I would wish to immediately reinstate this one, and think it must have been accident or something that got him on the list here (it was certainly not me, at least I do not recall him being TROLL or SPAMMER).

Appeal to Reverse Ban:

"Good Day, Madam Lorie,


It is with some dismay, I find myself on both your elongated list and the special banned list,and I can think of no reason why.


Not even you, Dear Madam Lorie, despise spam more than I. I moderate every message coming into my groups, and those with the insensitivity to post links to Friendfinder clubs, Sex Enhancement pills, (Viagra an example), those who post Mail Sorting sites, (Grouply, is just one), are banned immediately and their insidious message deleted as spam. Members who post non-topic links are given just one warning, the second offense results in their being banned also.


As for my predicament here, I'm at a loss. This is the only group of yours I belong to, and this is my first post to this group.


If I have sinned against you, please be gracious and forthcoming enough to enlighten me.

p4eshah is another that has me scratching my head. As a moderator in his groups, I read all his mail, unless it is posted to an individual, and I've seen nothing offensive from him either. The fact that he is on your list is no business of mine, but it is curious.


Most of the others on your lists are known to me, and while I try not to sound hypocritical, (I'm there with them), I agree with their inclusion. Two others you might consider (be on the alert for), are czsunday@gmail.com and elcanch@yahoo.com The first includes a couple of out-of-focus celebs doing little but be celebs, but his posts are full of advertising. The second, posts links that take you directly to AdultFriendfinder groups.


I look forward to your reply at your convenience, with genuine concern. Thank you for the blogspot link, without it, I'd never have known about my inclusion with the Evil Ones.


Sincerely,

Earl Mosley.

MosLegemRegit@yahoo.com"


Well, that is the message from Earl, which I regard as both VERY polite and also, very persuasive for me. I will also send email reminder to both tony and to Bob to see if they have problem that it is my intention to reverse the ban and UNBAN this one (oh my a first, how sure are we of how to do this? will devote some thought to that one.... we wish very much to be fair while at same time to protect ourselves from trolls and spammers and especially the REALLY bad ones, perhaps name them SUPER TROLLS ? They are on The Madams Special List but perhaps should be more clear, SUPER TROLLS BAN List.

My up to date ban names from the last time are (group owners, use cut and paste to copy these names & ban them all):

10/16 New Ban:

shu131421@yahoo.com

orlando_spirit@yahoo.com

heidoger@yahoo.de

wkarric1@yahoo.com


The Madam (Lorie
owner of SlimGurls group and founder of this BanListing blog


welcome Kalbo Bob & DivingTony as "Founders" of BanListing

The news is that Google has apparently finished their review and given us a "clean bill of health." The "review" was triggered by our starting out with a listing of our Participating Group, which the "dumb" robot of Google thought was all links to the same one single website (yahoo groups, the dummy thought, was one single website). For some reason, the robot thought that marked us as a "spam site" which caused them to put us "on notice." The coast seems clear, we can carry on. Hooray.

Onward to banning spammers and internet trolls.

I am happy to tell you that Kalbo Bob has agreed to join us as a "Founder" of this BanListing site. As some of my friends know, and especially those who are members of my group SlimGurls, Bob posts a lot of nice pix. Some who don't like SOME of his pix, have caused him a lot of trouble in the past, especially the Titty Police who measure if a girl's tits are LARGE ENOUGH to please them and if not they would then hollar and yell that the girl is too young and everyone should throw stones at the person who sent such pix out. Bob never asks anything of anyone and is just happy to send out nice pix. Many of those pix fit in very nicely at my groups and Bob also contributes to many other yahoo groups too, plus has his own groups.

The other founder of this new BanListing site is known as "DivingTony" who actually helped me spin off my own group from his AsianErotics group about two years ago. He does some "moderator" work at my SlimGurls group too.

Speaking of Kalbo Bob I am happy to report another name to this group as an Internet Troll. this fellow responded to Kalbo Bob's posts at my group by demanding that I approve a message to the entire group that said this:

(10/9 complaint about Kalbo Bob). The message is from kevin walters and he says, "would you please stop sending me these things or I will turn you in to yahoo thank you very much."


Of course I rejected his message and sent him this reply: "Very sorry but we cannot approve such a message to the entire group.

"Also, you appear to be very confused about yahoo groups. I am a volunteer moderator and group owner here, at a group that you voluntarily chose to join. Yahoo groups is a system where you can join or leave a group, or change your membership to NO MAIL.

"Your attempt to post an off topic message, without any photo, and what appears to be flaming, and is also fairly rude, makes me sad to have to ban you from the group and also to report you to http://BanListing.blogspot.com.

"In the future, if you decide to join a group (that is, one not participating in BanListing because those groups will all ban you now), please pay better attention. Every mail you receive has an "opt out" choice and two ways to "opt out" of the group without sending an insulting and threatening message that you sent, which forced me to report you.

"Best wishes. (signed/MadamLorie, owner of SlimGurls group)"


Normally, somebody who simply acts a little rude or impolite, or who attempts to post a message that is off topic to a group, should not be banned (perhaps warned, or perhaps kicked out with a stern warning not to repeat the behavior if they decide to come back). Banning should be reserved for SPAMMERS and for serious "internet trolls".

But when somebody threatens the survival of your group and threatens to report you, then I would think ALL group owners would wish to be sure this person IS NOT a member of their group. Who needs this grief from a fool who cannot just LEAVE a group he joined?

Well, I am happy that instead of just banning such a person as I did in the past I can now take action to warn others about people like this and also hope that I will receive THEIR warnings about such people so that I can ban them before they cause trouble.

Lorie
The Madam of SlimGurls group

P.S. The Founders of the group have agreed that they will serve as a "Review Board" if anyone branded as an "internet Troll" or spammer wishes to make an APPEAL and have their name removed. The process is simple: use the COMMENT field of any of these blogs to write to us. Hint: for success, denying everything won't work out very good to persuade any of us that you are a troll or spammer. Admit whatever you did wrong, recognize that the U.S. Constitution does not give you any rights over somebody ELSE's property (ie. the owner of the group), and give us an idea why we should believe you won't do it again. It only takes ONE member of our EXECUTIVE BOARD of 3 founders to reverse the BAN decision, and 2/3 may always overrule the 1. I've heard that ONCE divingTony did a reversal and that most anyone else he ever banned, just wrote him angry messages if they replied (which most did not). We will publish more names of BANNED soon.

Sunday, October 12, 2008

Google May Ban Us

For sure it must be The Supreme Irony. I do not know what has trigged this, but Yahoo has just given me a "form message" to tell me that I am under review as a Possible Spammer. It is entirely voluntary this review, they advise. But if I did not voluntarily submit to the review within 20 days of their notice (today - the same day I set this up!!), they say they would automatically delete my account and my new blog.

Well, I have two blogs so, either the one with 71 visitors, or this one with Zero visitors (it just started) is the problem in Google's view. I am hopeful that we will be allowed to continue our effort to combat spam which we started today.

Wouldn't it be the "funniest thing" if our little effort to alert google and yahoo group owners of the email name of those who send us spam, is called "spam" by Google? One American friend says it is called "Orwellian" after George Orwell and his term, "doublespeak." That is where you say that White is Black, and that Black is White. Our effort to BLOCK SPAMMERS by simply NOTING WHO IS SENDING IT so that our fellow group owners can POOL this information and STOP SPAMMERS who are SPAMMING, is called SPAMMING. Whew.

Perhaps being Filipina by ancestry and bloood it is over my head to understand, and an American can explain how the computer of Google has identified our effort to combat Spam, as Spam. Will Google be the Great Defender of Spam, by killing us on our "day of birth" as a new blog?

I do receive at my yahoo group SlimGurls, dozens of spams every week (sometimes in one day), some of which is Google blog sites. Somehow, these obvious commercial spams elude the hyper sensitive computer "eyes" (sensors? what is the correct term?) of Google but, The Madam is snared in the Google Spam Police dragnet.

The few who may be reading this can be sure that The Madam will carry on, regardless of what Forum she will make use of. I am hopeful that the knife being wielded by the Spam Police at Google, will find any of the more worthy targets of their operations, and in fact, I cheer them on.

Ban Them. I did.

I am happy to share this ban list with you - originally an idea from Tony to share lists but now a group of us are "Publishing" in this way. If you own a google or yahoo group just BAN THEM ALL. I did. The larger your group the more you will be spammed... unless you strike first.

If your name is on this list by error, don't ask me, none of us keep records of this. It is not a civil right to be a member of our group. It is a property right. You may write to me to ask that your name be removed if you wish and we will consider this. This blog is simply an attempt to deal with the OVERWHELMING number of spam mails with commercials links that we get, EVERY DAY, for those of us who operate either a Google or a Yahoo group.

The spammers are just relentless. The "trolls" just go on & on. I get reports all the time of other ladies who are harassed and badgered by such trolls, threatened. Stories of internet defamation are common, especially with those who want to criticize the nice people who contribute to the yahoo and google groups, for whatever weird or strange reason they think their insult “flames” would be welcomed (only the willful, persistent ones get banned).

In some cases, arrogant and hurtful things are published at other yahoo groups, or by other group owners, which would be defamatory in any ordinary, non-internet court of law. Now, a small group of us can "strike back" with this method, this new Blogsite. Here's hoping that this experiment will work.

Isn't it about time we fight back at the Spammers and Trolls?

bentonitecement@yahoo.com.my
jim_merdad@yahoo.com
l_vanessa80
rolliger58er@yahoo.de
k.donald@rocketmail.com
pallav_c@yahoo.com
sabayalarab@yahoo.com
addvertise@yahoo.com
zalkhaledi@yahoo.com
tmp_48@yahoo.com
faekmuqbill@yahoo.com
ozkan.esmer@gmail.com
punker_lan@yahoo.com
tum_bin084@yahoo.com
aboeldahab30@yahoo.com
twister342001@yahoo.com
uniaz_27@yahoo.com
asd.dsef@yahoo.in
aboeldahab30@grouply.com
cute_ravi_20@yahoo.co.in
bad_krystal2@yahoo.com
rush2mesoon@yahoo.com
alkulkuri@yahoo.com
plew_knet@yahoo.com
ed_tm@yahoo.com
fotoman1au@yahoo.com.au
zorakooser
sabayalarab@yahoo.com
teeman542002
groupsseriesa@yahoo.com
wel_wish2001@yahoo.com
asd.dsef@yahoo.in
ajaz_2001@yahoo.com
niharika365@yahoo.in
catchmeagain123
thara00009@yahoo.in
lovecatfights@yahoo.com
poster@adultemoticons.info
phonicia6@yahoo.com
sex_andfun@yahoo.com
suraj_20082050@yahoo.in
malinee222@yahoo.in
nikki_c60
cwsitewalker420
lovermay
catchmeagain123@yahoo.com
chanthrurakesh@yahoo.co.in
manucool_kota2@yahoo.co.in
great9character@yahoo.com
poster1@adultemoticons.info
sex_andfun@yahoo.com
suraj_20082050@yahoo.in
seerams12@yahoo.com
rbarrieta@yahoo.com
zai5395@yahoo.com
junkyarddogno1@yahoo.com
dionisos071@googlemail.com
groups0@wish71.net
sai.sankeerthana@yahoo.com
w71business
ltz_94@yahoo.com
ship10day@yahoo.com
williamb17025
exzumd
tjdweiss@hotmail.com
rambor71@yahoo.es
no_reply@yahoogroups.com
s1cott10@yahoo.com
somaheshs@yahoo.co.in
tjdweiss@hotmail.com
nite.raider@yahoo.com
thaistarlatexgirl@yahoo.no
sensegan
jilatpussymelayu@yahoo.com
legend200_7@yahoo.com
groups0@wish71.net
ravi1832goc@yahoo.in
anyeve2@gmail.com
maryalbert_33j@yahoo.com
chanthrurakesh@yahoo.co.in
nite.raider@yahoo.com
cowboy368@yahoo.com
ma_stephen26j@yahoo.com
khosrow58@kashan.com
helgafeine@yahoo.de
angel.198501
thebossjohn
zorakooser
girltoy.kazano@gmail.com
blown440@yahoo.com
leathercloud@yahoo.com
altaf_247@yahoo.com
makecasheveryday@hotmail.com
anwar_ali770@yahoo.com
fireman200671@yahoo.com
hotdatingx@yahoo.com
exzumd
ship10day@yahoo.com
williamb17025
ltz_94@yahoo.com
pm4eshah@yahoo.com
pm4eshah
dixiedawg10
karen_price_fan
moslegemregit
nov75jan81
professord45 (see his links)
puddlejumperking
puddlejumperking@yahoo.com
red5pack4
redsfan411
stomper1960
-nobody-
39734
a.069x_female_online
a.kirikov
a.mallick_79
a.tasoulis
a.tasoulis@yahoo.com
a.thornton45

Madam Lorie’s BAN LISTING

I Urge everyone to ban These Ones from all Yahoo groups and all internet discourse. -Madam Lorie

“…to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
U.S. Declaration of Independence,
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

Madam Lorie has a very “live and let live” libertarian attitude, which does not always stand her in good stead among some who think they know better in the Philippines, among terrorist Jihad lovers and in some other quarters of the world. Some of those people take it upon themselves to express themselves to her so very rudely towards the Madam or her friends, that she feels compelled to alert others to avoid their company and therefore has today founded, with some other concerned yahoo and/or Google group owners, this BAN LISTING as a public service.

So, not only does The Madam Ban these individuals from her OWN yahoo groups (such as Slimgurls) but also, she shares her lists with some others who return the favor. How do we select someone for this “Honor” of being placed on the Ban List?

Well, to begin, it was tony of AsianErotics who first approached me with the idea to share our lists between each other. And as time went by, a few other groups joined in this practice. I simply copy those names that I banned today for violating our group rules (see below) and send that over to Tony who then bans them from his groups. He does the same for me with his banned folks. A “ban” kicks out the “offender” before he can attempt to spam our group, or prevents him from joining the group if he has not already. Yahoo maintains a “ban listing” at that group, once you put someone on that listing. But this is the first attempt to more publicly BAN the troublemakers and hateful ones.

Why do we ban someone? How do you get your name on our list?

Most of all we hope that the reader will understand the primary reason for a BAN is to protect the members of that particular group from BAD STUFF (ie. smelly dirty crap) which would drive them away, cause them to leave the group or at least to change their membership to NO MAIL.

The reasons vary from the demands that they place upon The Madam which they cannot receive (how is that for politely rephrasing their demands?), to the demand that photographs or videos of any lady without a very large pair of mammaries or with Shaved Nether Regions should never be viewed (and their insistence to punish those who disagree with them, to destroy them, to wipe them out, hurt them, destroy their yahoo groups as I have been threatened with, to destroy their yahoo profile as has been done to me and to others). The universal definition of SPAM is not the one we use – which is “unwanted mail.” What the heck could that mean? We mean, emails with a commercial link and no benefit to the person receiving the mail. If someone intends to profit by running a blog, but they send some pix to your group, that might be WHAT YOU DO NOT WANT but, it is not the same as the useless CRAP that some keep sending over & over with nothing of benefit to your members. The guy seeking to get a girl and ignoring your “no requests to ask for or to sell sex are wanted at this group please use the personals section” is not someone to ban. He did ignore your group rule but, that isn’t in the same category as the Internet Nazis and Trolls and Spammers who are out there. You might delete the former while BAN the latter. Unless the “sex-searcher” just won’t listen and keeps doing it (then it becomes WILFUL behavior).

The prejudiced and arrogant believe that Asian Ladies who always appear 10 to 20 years younger than their actual age, should have their photographs wiped off of the internet, and their photos should never be viewed or distributed, something they do not demand of age 18 or age 25 or age 30 year old girls in their own countries, to those who are simply too irrational or emotional or simply arrogantly demanding in their outbursts to categorize in any way.

The Madam believes we are endowed by Our Creator with both the Right and the Means to defend ourselves from the Evil Ones of the World, Satan’s Domain (according to the Star of the Book I read) and in fact it becomes more of a moral imperative to warn and alert others to the dangers posed to them by These Evil Ones.

When someone offers you an insult it is actually like shooting a gun to put a bullet into your brain. There is no known “counter” to such a first-strike attack on your sacred person. Your temple has been invaded, your house carpet has been soiled.

That negative (or “bullet”) – whether intentional or unintentional - cannot have its effect lessened or removed by any counter in words or action once delivered upon your person. Only the passage of time and the avoidance of further such negative, lessens the effect of the evil action visited upon you by the Evil Ones.

There of course is much unintentional harming of others in this world, and in any case that The Madam has caused any pain or negative to you Dear Reader she humbly apologizes and reminds you that This Missive is not directed to such accidental or unintentional behavior but to the WILFUL perpetrators of Evil, arrogant and demanding, hurtful and wicked, those who seek to SNUFF OUT the candle light for the rest of us, to blind us, to force their will upon us to advance their own selfish and irrational demands.

The Madam does believe that Evil exists in the world, and it is a “reason” that explains much, and from which reason many shrink. And as surely as Evil does exist, it is surely true as Sir Edmund Burke said standing before Crown and Country in his Parliamant, a patriot but also a freedom loving fair minded man, that “The only thing necessary for the Triumph of Evil, is that Good men do nothing.”

It is for this reason surely, The Madam speculates, that The Lord’s Prayer, offered by Himself, firmly prays to Our Father, to “Deliver us from Evil.” The Madam suggests that the names on this list be recorded everywhere as people to avoid, to ban from all polite company.

The Madam has recorded here in her new BAN LISTING, the names of those who she believes, have not done this evil action or insult against her person or upon her friends by accident or thoughtlessly, but purposely and willfully, seeking to hurt or with prejudice in their heart seeking to impose their own preferences or prejudices upon The Madam. Whether it is arrogance, ignorant anti-Filipina or anti-Asian prejudice, or evil seeking its own way does not matter in the hurt that is purposely and willfully done to others in pursuit of such selfish purpose.

The Madam believes that these listed Evil Ones, the object of her BAN LISTING, will act in this same way all the time, not just towards her, but towards anyone else that they come in contact with.

Besides the spammers and trolls who are in this BAN LISTING, The Madam has established a very special category to give extra recognition to the particularly smelly and dirty ones, The Madam’s Special Ban List, see sidebar in this blog.

These Evil Ones bring discredit to any group that they are associated with by their evil beliefs, their abhorrent words and their destructive actions towards others. So, with a decent respect to the varying opinions of others, the recognition of the value of every other person on Earth, with the confidence that Moral Right is seeing the Right and Doing It, with the certain knowledge that Our Father asks us to respect and regard and SAFEGUARD the safety and well being of our fellow man of all skin colors and religions and beliefs, this BAN LISTING is issued, with its sidebar, “The Madams Special Ban List.”

If you own a yahoo group we urge you to copy these names in our BAN LISTING and ban them all. If you are a member of a group we urge you to copy this and ask the owner/moderator to ban them all (for example you would write, SlimGurls-owner@yahoogroups.com, to reach the owner (don't write to that one it is mine). If you hear from one of these people hit your IGY button (ignore). Madam strongly urges all polite people BAN the company of those on this list, from the rooms inhabited by all civilized and decent people on earth.

WHY you may ask, does Madam Lorie publish (and Why, this BAN LISTING?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. When they came for the Jews some did not care. And 7 million died.

When they came for the Christians behind the Iron Curtain some did not care. And 67 million Christians died behind the “Iron and Bamboo curtains” over 50 years.

When they put up the wall some did not care, and thousands died crossing “the wire”before one courageous American stood before the Walls of Jericho and with God surely at his side shouted, “Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall,” and the wall came down.

They laughed with joy as 19 courageous Rangers died, some in groups fighting to the last man to safeguard care packages from the west, in Samalia, and they still celebrate Ranger Day there every year and smile at the memory of dead heroes’ bodies being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu.

Demonstrators and hecklers jeer and some U.S. Senators whine, as still today, brave and courageous Americans, many unsung heroes of Special Forces all throughout the world including here in the Philippines, work quietly and toil mightily and sometimes die painfully, to stand up against tyranny and oppression and to help those who believe in God and pray for the freedom promised by that Beckoning Lady in that Harbor in New York.

But despite all that freedom’s defenders endures, all the pain and the hurt, the wounded and the dead, the complaints and the jeers, the freedom candle still flickers, the light is not yet out. Madam Lorie renews her pledge to offer free Photo Galleries and Videos for the entertainment of the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, guardsmen, special operators, and all who serve the cause of freedom, especially from the United States of America. All of my efforts online with groups and blogs are dedicated to you, and others of goodwill may enjoy the ride.

I know that my being this outspoken for freedom and against Tyranny, marks me as an enemy of the Evil Ones. But the Freedom System needs defenders, not just the ones willing to bear arms in her defense but the rest of us too, and those of us who have seen the candle flicker, and realize the danger, must not look away and allow The Light of the World, to be snuffed out without protest.

The Madam has been BANNED from certain yahoo groups because of these beliefs, because of Evil, because of Prejudice, because of her VERY strong stand for America. Sometimes those who throw the stones are simply intolerant “believers” in a different idea and other times, they are outright cheerleaders for the enemies of freedom and those who hate America and its values. Their bullets kill just the same whatever their motivation.

And so, Madam Lorie asks of you Dear Reader and beseeches you, offer your prayer along with me: God Bless America, those who defend her, and all join in BANNING these insults to freedom, these Evil Ones, from all civilized discourse and from all yahoo or google groups. Group owners, please ban them.

Please write to me if you are a group owner who pledges to make use of this BAN LISTING and I will be happy to list your group under “Participating groups”. We urge (but do not require) you to put a warning on your homepage:

Warning to Spammers & Trolls. This group is armed and dangerous to you. Your spam will not be approved. You will be banned on your first try. Your name will be given to http://BanListing.blogspot.com and shared with other group owners who will ALL BAN YOU immediately. Don’t even think of wasting your time here, go away. Our members are protected. It is safe to set your membership to RECEIVE MAIL here.

Group members, please beseech those who own and moderate groups you are a member of, to ban those we have listed here and to join us as a “Participating Group” and get a listing (provide them this link to explain further: http://BanListing.blogspot.com).

God bless you for reading this, the candle still burns, and still shows to us The Way, The Truth, The Light for this world.

-Madam Lorie, founder BanListing.blogspot.com

(The Madam gives special Thanks to the very articulate asianErotics group owner Tony for his help and his teachings, in drafting this thoughtful response and attempt to fight in a small way, The Evil Ones and for his help with my Yahoo groups)